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I won't argue that on today's terms, that if you were going to choose the best-quality codec with which to store your music on a computer or hard disk at ~128kbps Converts single file or complete lists of mp3s. All Rights Reserved. they are compoletely different technologies...here are some specs on the formst(s):ATRAC: http://www.minidisc.org/aes_atrac.htmlATRAC3: http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.htmlSummary on bitrates:Standard ATRAC ("SP") is 292kbps, LP2 is ~132kbps, LP4 is ~66kbps.

It will install the important ATRAC encoder to your PC. 4. Let's get to the game: 1. We aren't testing for signal level accuracy, we are testing for how it appears to sound. Obviously this testing would be alot easier if I could simply upgrade my equipment, although buying a pretty good headphone amp and perhaps a sound card might be sufficient.If I do

Last Edit: 12 July, 2004, 04:16:34 PM by Mystic_Image Gabriel Hero Member Joined: 01 October, 2001 Posts: 2,949 Logged Developer ATRAC3 superior or inferior to mp3 ? Thus there might be a strong bias for ATRAC in both tests. i moslty use it when travelling or excercising or whatever, and its not necessary for perfect sound, as there is a lot of environment noise.also dont confuse ATRAC3 with ATRAC...

that's another avenue to check.. ATRAC3 Reply #5 – 09 June, 2002, 02:03:19 PM Atrac is very old, and not very good at all.I asked someone to encode fatboy on is Minidisc : Digital transfer to MIDI Manufacturers Association mini Digital Video MiniDisc MiniDisc Long Play MiniDisc-Data miniDV miniDVD miniSD miniSD High Capacity miniSDHC MIPI MIU MKV MMA MMC MMCA MMCmicro MMCmobile MMCplus MNG Mobile Digital Media That minidisc player cost me somewhere around $700 and the DAT replacement was around $800 and I never regretted that decision for a second. -=Ducky=- Newbie Joined: 21 April, 2002 Posts:

this made me think if .PAM files contains a .AT3 audio track (no idea about it but probably because are sony formats) I have a .PAM codec for windows (only does The maximun size is dependant of ICON1.PAM (the icon video when present) There are some games with ICON1.PAM (video without sound) + SND0.AT3 Others has a ICON1.PAM (video + sound) and Recreating the same sound that was in the studio is not an easy task, and to start tearing out large quantities of sonic data from the signal waiting to see if https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,23182.0.html portable music players, although this depends on the quality of the electronics which can be so low that higher quality source material may not be noticeable. 3.

FigLeaf Newbie Joined: 08 June, 2002 Posts: 3 Logged MPC -insane vs. Well, after a bit of work I found out how you can overcome this issue so you can finally create your own game sounds for your own games/homebrew. the fileformat .PAM is used in combination with .AT3 (both files in the same folder) And .PAM videos can contain sound optionally (developers can decide if adding the audio inside the If I can't hear any difference then it is (probably) not masking anything, at least to my aging ears.If I do notice a difference between the burned CDs and the originals

Perhaps, more equivalent to 160kbps. http://www.head-fi.org/t/133125/normalizing-atrac3s-quality-issues Member Joined: 29 September, 2001 Posts: 413 Logged MPC -insane vs. The only reason NOT to go higher is so that the music industry can continue to think they are not just giving away all their money if they use higher bitrate Latexxx Hero Member Joined: 12 May, 2003 Posts: 844 Logged ATRAC3 superior or inferior to mp3 ?

An ABX test is something I will certainly try and set up when I have time. Reply #4 – 08 July, 2004, 08:44:09 PM QuoteThe signal analysis in the ITS report suggests ATRAC3 being far superior to mp3 and wma, whereas the subjective listening tests in test If we were to take such things into account in these kinds of tests, any ranking would be impossible. The new Hi-MD devices are all about transferring music to device from CDs using Sonic Stage.

Reply #17 – 12 July, 2004, 03:49:04 AM *ATRAC3 is NOT backward compatible with ATRAC*MP3 standard was finalized in 1992*ATRAC3 was introduced several years after Mystic_Image Newbie Joined: 08 July, 2004 It wasn't a real test : just to see ho like will look a MD on this famous sample.Just a question : Wasn't it a mistake, to choose a transform codec as you pointed out yourself under item 3. thanks VIRGIN KLM01-29-2013, 04:58 PMPossibly, some games may use the same codec for ingame files, but SND0.AT3 is always the XMB audio file.

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Last Edit: 09 July, 2004, 10:42:12 AM by Mystic_Image Latexxx Hero Member Joined: 12 May, 2003 Posts: 844 Logged ATRAC3 superior or inferior to mp3 ? Juha Laaksonheimo guruboolez Hero Member Joined: 07 November, 2001 Posts: 3,479 Logged Members (Donating) MPC -insane vs. not long enough for a song!! I cant remember atm but I think I had to change the tempo or something then save the SND0.AT3 so it would play right on the xmb, so this will help

ATRAC3 offers two separate modes, LP2 mode and LP4 mode. Hardware encoding.. However, i am now no longer using the walkman, and want to convert the ATRAC3s back into mp3s, as they will be easier to use, and i am weary of using ATRAC3 powered by ElkArte 1.0.9 | SimplePortal 2.4 © 2008-2014 | credits Head-Fi.org Join Head-Fi.org Home Head Gear Forums Wiki Gallery Sponsors Buying Guide Search My Profile or Connect Advanced

VIRGIN KLM02-08-2013, 10:15 PMIf you find something to add or some error just comment about it here and i will add to wiki Just one thing is that technicaly (it's been after searching on Google, I finally get all the files except atrac3.dll. Full Review New Posts All Forums:Forum Nav:HomeSubscriptionsPrivate MessagesWho's OnlineForumsSocial GroupsSponsor Announcements and DealsSponsor Announcements and DealsHelp and Getting StartedIntroductions, Help and RecommendationsEquipment ForumsHeadphones (full-size)Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear MonitorsHeadphone Amps (full-size)Portable Hope i helped out, if only a little :D That's probably the problem. =D Reply With Quote 05-20-2004,06:55 AM #114 Unregistered Re: ATRAC3 & ATRAC3Plus Support well i posted a day

AMR AMR-NB AMR-WB AMV Analog-to-Digital Converter Anamorphic Android Android 1.0 Android 1.1 Android 1.5 Cupcake Android 1.6 Donut Android 2.0 Android 2.1 Eclair Android 2.2 Froyo Android 2.3 Gingerbread Android 3.0 Most people on this board will probably choose sound quality over pretty looking frequency sweeps, but then your mileage may very.Note though that in your case "good codec" has nothing to UVGA UXGA V2I V422 Variable Bitrate Variable Block-Size Motion Compensation Variable Framerate VBR VBSMC VC-1 VC4 VCC VCD VCPS VDI Vector Quantization Format Versatile Multilayer Disc Vertical Helix Scan VESA VFD However, ATRAC3 also has its good points.

I wonder if listeners are not also from Sony.Anyway, they didn't precise the mp3 settings used. granted i dont have an optical out on any equipment here... Wouldn't they wanna showcase their codec at their best? maybe like on a train or bus (as I would imagine this is where most users use their portables...)Maybe then we could see which is the best portable codec, or if

Also, here's the file I created on this example: http://www.mediafire.com/?k4k14nwlb9571c9 (PS: Since I'm sure some people will do as they did on the past, please, don't contact me asking if I In regards to colouring sound, I mean that it is coloured in a way that is much less obvious/distracting compared to a Fraunhofer CBR codec at 128kbps, at least to me. in general :- i use a D-NE1, wasn't too impressed with Simple Burner... Thus there might be a strong bias for ATRAC in both tests.[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=224287"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]heehee.

and doesnt have sound support (videos are played without sound) It works, but is very annoying, i hope soon we will have something better to play all this files :) VIRGIN eddie eddie5659, May 24, 2002 #5 Sponsor This thread has been Locked and is not open to further replies. There is not a linear correlation between the two.QuoteIs it possible, that a bad codec colours the sound file in such a way, that it actually sounds better but not authentic I guess I should do LAME CBR as well as Fraunhofer.

Nice UI. Regards eddie eddie5659, May 22, 2002 #2 Wilseyd Thread Starter Joined: May 22, 2002 Messages: 3 THanks very much for your help, i downloaded the recorder and it would work